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  • AVEs are a Scourge on Public Relations. Can I Get a Witness?

    • 5 Apr 2011
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    Just when you thought you had seen everything... Here I was, just going about my Monday...Catching up on e-mail and my Twitter stream when my good friend Heather Whaling sent me a link. Now, I think the world of Heather, and the work she does for her clients so naturally I clicked on the link. If only I could hit the rewind button and NOT click on that link. I spent the rest of my Monday trying to calm down after reading this post. What post is that you might ask? Ragan's PR Daily posted an article written by Jessica Epperly of The Wakeman Agency on measuring the value of editorial coverage. This post starts off innocently enough comparing and contrasting the role of advertising and public relations within organizations. Advertising is paid and media placements are earned...Yada yada yada... We've all heard that song and dance a million times. Where this article really comes off the tracks, at least for me, is in the discussion of how we measure success in PR and advertising. Yes, my friends, you thought right: We're back in the world of advertising value equivalencies. Ugh..and here I thought we were well on our way to moving beyond these ridiculous metrics. Perhaps we are and this is an isolated case? One can only hope, right? I don't want to go too deeply down the path to discredit advertising value equivalencies as a metric, but if you wanted to read more on the subject I'd suggest you check out the works of Don Bartholomew, Katie Paine and Sean Williams. All of them have done EXTENSIVE work to discredit the value of AVE's as a metric to evaluate success in PR. Much of their work can be found on their blogs, but I'd also encourage you to check the work from the Institute for Public Relations on this subject. It's all great, and it all, pretty much, tells the same story - advertising value equivalencies are a scourge on the PR profession. As I said, I don't want to go much down the path of discussing the science (or lack thereof) behind AVEs. However, there are a couple of things that have me very concerned after reading this article:
    1. This is what makes measurement hard to talk about with companies - There is no doubt that Ragan.com is a reputable site. I read PR Daily myself, quite often, when it comes across in the stream. However, publishing an article like that is pretty reckless. We already know there is great misunderstanding about measurement in the marketplace, and by posting something that's so egregiously wrong you only serve to feed that beast. Similarly, there are going to be a lot of companies out there reading that article, looking for a measurement solution and using it as sort of a "bolt on." This will only lead to companies measuring the wrong thing more often than they currently do.
    2. For the 400th time, advertising and PR DO NOT carry the same value - I'm not getting into which one of the disciplines is better than the other. I truly believe that a successful communications mix incorporates all elements of paid, earned and owned media. That being said. there hasn't been any research that I believe that would suggest advertising and PR deliver the same value to organizations. The answer, in most cases, is it depends. Some companies get more mileage out of advertising, while others get more out of PR. It depends on where you sit.
    3. Page rank is so bogus I think I want to vomit - As if the discussion of AVEs in this article isn't enough, we go down the page rank path?! Oh, for the love of... "Whether your story appears at the beginning or the end of a magazine can impact the media value," says Epperly. Well, no shit! However, are you sitting over the shoulder of someone reading said magazine to know if they are making it to the end of the magazine? The answer is no, and the math behind trying to apply some sort of figure to those kinds of situations is less than ideal.
    Listen folks, I'm all for integration. I want an integrated approach to communications and measurement. Unfortunately, blending PR and advertising by using advertising value equivalencies is a recipe for disaster. The better approach is to come up with a list of metrics that are reasonable measures of success for PR, and run with it. If some happen to be influenced by advertising, then great. Have that conversation. Until then, though, DO NOT USE AVEs. THEY ARE A SCURGE ON THE PROFESSION. CAN I GET A WITNESS?
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  • Size Doesn't Matter...In Social Media

    • 2 Aug 2010
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    Stop me if you've heard these before:
    • We're going to calculate the total number of impressions
    • Then we're going to apply the famous PR multiplier to the total number of impressions
    • Maybe we can apply advertising value equivalencies. Because, you know, advertising and PR carry the same value for a brand (sarcasm)
    • Lets find the total number of fans a person has
    • Then lets find their total number of Twitter followers
    • I'm also interested in how many posts have been written about my brand/industry
    • They write for the New York Times, or Wall Street Journal so they must matter to my brand.
    Guess what? All of that is bullshit. OK, maybe just PR multipliers and AVE's. The rest aren't total BS, when placed into context. We know that a brand engaging in social media, at its core, is attempting to influence a consumer, or potential consumer, into doing something. Most often it is buying your product, but you could be using it to respond to customer service inquiries. Or maybe you are using it to just gain market intelligence (read: listening only). Or maybe even using it as an employee recruitment tool. Or, finally, using it as an internal communications vehicle. No matter what your purpose in using social media is, looking at raw numbers (like the ones listed above) is pretty meaningless (just like in traditional PR, actually). I mentioned during the #DellSTU SMaC Unconference last week that one day I hoped we would get over our love affair with size. The anecdote I used was that just because Amber Naslund (she was sitting next to me at the time - I wasn't picking on her) has 20,000+ followers on Twitter doesn't mean she's relevant to your brand. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, the magic word: relevancy! If Amber has written 10,000 tweets, or 500 blog posts in the last year, how many of them relate to my brand? If only a handful are related, then how is she influential for me/my brand? On the other hand, if you take Joe Smith who has only 5,000 followers, half as many blog posts and half as many tweets but is writing more on topic content than Amber isn't he more influential? I would postulate that he is. Taken another way in traditional communications.... We love the big name writer from the New York Times or Wall Street Journal or Forbes, but what we're not taking into consideration is how much they write about us, or our industry. Just because their content is widely syndicated, or their publication has several million impressions (gag me, please), does not make them influential for you. My boss, Bob Pearson, is fond of saying that there are likely only 50 or so people shaping your brand online at any given time. Underlying that is the notion of relevancy. Just because they have a lot of followers, impressions, etc... doesn't mean they are relevant. Before your boss asks you to reach out to someone via traditional media or social media, take a second to figure out whether or not they are relevant to your brand. It might just save some swings and misses down the line
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    I am the Manager of Research and Online Reputation for Dix & Eaton. What does that mean? Well, when I figure it out I will be sure to let you know.

    In all seriousness, I spearhead the firm’s efforts in the areas of social media monitoring & measurement, financial research and analysis, competitive intelligence, market research, issue and media monitoring and stock surveillance. That research provides critical inputs into the strategic development and execution of marketing communications, digital communications and media relations programs.

    How do I plan to use Posterous? This is likely to be a "digital notebook," of sorts, for me on a wide variety of topics including social media, social media monitoring and measurement.

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